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President Barack Obama and his challenger, Governor Mitt Romney, have answered 14 Top American Science Questions put to them by the grassroots nonprofit I lead, ScienceDebate.org. The candidates' answers provide valuable insight into their positions on issues that, while among the most important facing the country, usually get short shrift on the campaign trail. Here they are:
Innovation | Climate Change | Research and the Future | Pandemics and Biosecurity | Education | Energy | Food | Fresh Water | The Internet | Ocean Health | Science in Public Policy | Space | Critical Natural Resources | Vaccination and Public Health
One of the most interesting highlights from the responses is Mitt Romney's shift on climate change, away from his more recent position, which was, "My view is we don't know what's causing climate change on this planet," back toward the view he held in June 2011, shortly after announcing his run for the presidency, when he acknowledged that people are significant contributors to climate change. Four days after he made that statement, Romney was slammed by Rush Limbaugh, who said, "Bye-bye nomination. Another one down. We're in the midst here of discovering that this is all a hoax. The last year has established that the whole premise of man-made global warming is a hoax, and we still have presidential candidates who want to buy into it."
Romney's change in position is unlikely to please his base, many of whom continue to deny the findings of climate science, and to whom Romney has been joking about climate change. The shift signals that he has begun reaching out to more mainstream voters. But after acknowledging the reality and human causes, Romney moves back into denial when he says that there is no scientific consensus. There is. Romney uses this claim to justify rejecting cap-and-trade as a solution to climate change. He prefers to encourage innovation and increase nuclear power in a "no regrets" strategy. So, it's complicated.
The responses are interesting in other ways, as well. Although vaccines don't cause autism, Obama never calls out vaccine-autism science deniers, who are largely on the left, but neither does Romney.
Many readers have expressed surprise at the length and thoughtfulness of Romney's answers. Even so, readers have generally said they feel Obama's answers are more grounded on concrete, well-thought-out policy, but they are disappointed that his answers are largely touting past accomplishments or existing policy positions instead of charting a more visionary path forward on these big issues, like he did in 2008.
The responses are also notable for what they don't say. Some of the questions aren't fully answered when they become politically difficult, and others could really benefit from follow-up discussion; for example, what ideas do the candidates really have for solving problems that cross national boundaries, like climate change and the global financial crisis? Such problems are cropping up more and more in a world with a global economy but no global regulatory structure. When people have a chance to internalize gains and externalize losses, whether they be economic or environmental, they will.
The Top American Science Questions were developed by asking thousands of scientists, engineers, and concerned citizens to submit the most important questions they thought the candidates should be debating but weren't. ScienceDebate.org then worked with several leading U.S. science organizations, including the National Academies, the AAAS, the Council on Competitiveness, IEEE-USA, the Union of Concerned Scientists, and others listed on the site to refine those questions into the final 14 that the group universally agreed were the most important. Barack Obama and John McCain answered similar questions in 2008.
ScienceDebate.org is a grassroots nonprofit organization funded by small individual donations and run by volunteers. Its supporters include more than 40,000 scientists and engineers, concerned citizens, about 200 leading universities and science organizations, dozens of Nobel laureates, and notable writers and editors.
Along with its media partner, Scientific American magazine, the group has also asked some three dozen members of Congress who lead key science committees to answer a subset of eight of the 14 questions. To date, just two have responded.
The questions and answers are part of a larger effort to move political dialogue into the 21st century. Candidates readily debate jobs and the economy even though they are not economists; they debate foreign policy and military intervention even though they are not diplomats or generals; they debate faith and values even though they are not priests or pastors. They should be equally comfortable debating the Top American Science Questions that affect all voters' lives, and a forum, unlike an online exchange of answers, allows for pointed follow-up discussions that would be really helpful on these major topics. To date, neither candidate has accepted the invitation to a presidential forum on these important questions. We know the public's interested. 85 percent of likely voters want them to be debating these topics. The fact is that debating the big science issues is what America is all about. We're a country of innovators. We lead the world in science, though that position is now threatened. Having a simple debate on these topics is what leadership and democracy is all about, and it's high time that candidates realize it.
You can sign up to follow ScienceDebate's efforts at http://www.sciencedebate.org/signon.html.
Shawn Lawrence Otto is the co-founder of ScienceDebate.org and a science advocate. His new book is Fool Me Twice: Fighting the Assault on Science in America. Visit him at http://www.shawnotto.com and like him on Facebook. Join ScienceDebate.org to get the presidential candidates to debate science.
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View AllFavorites Recency | Popularity Page: 1 2 Next › Last » (2 total) Hoodedswan13 Fans 3 hours ago ( 4:06 AM)If 85% of likely voters want the candidates to debate these issues, then it's the responsibility of the debate organizers to include these questions in the upcoming televised debates. Anything that forces them off their scripted responses to the questions they expect to get are good.Hoodedswan: If 85% of likely voters want the candidates to debatehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Hoodedswan/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184724397.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERLynda Groom192 Fans 5 hours ago ( 2:59 AM)Good luck on getting heart felt replies to the survey. These words from Isaac Azimov immediately come to mind.'There is a cult of ignorance in the US, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notiong that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.' Good words and certainly appropriate to this conversation.Lynda_Groom: Good luck on getting heart felt replies to the survey.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Lynda_Groom/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184718553.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation.
Loading comments… ubrew12that crazy uncle from Amarcord938 Fans 5 hours ago ( 2:53 AM)Romney: "there remains a lack of scientific consensus on the issue" Manufacturing doubt: Big money (oil in this case) needs to create doubt that a scientific or economic issue affecting their profit margin is real. Science and economics use precise, unambiguous language to engage the neocortex: not a great place to manufacture doubt. So the trick is to make the issue political, because political issues engage the reptilian brain (fear center), using language that is murky and ambiguous. Once you paint a scientific or economic issue as political, then positions on the issue support or attack 'the American Way'. Which is what, exactly? So, no consensus is even possible. Hence, action on the issue is delayed.The cure is to ask people WHY they hold strong positions on a purely scientific topic. WHY care about global warming and not, for example, the existence of the Higgs Boson? Think back to WHEN someone made you care about the topic. Did they present it as scientific, or political, and if political, was it presented as a threat to 'the American Way'? Bam! That's the power of big money, to bury a purely cerebral concept deep into your fear center, where it's really hard to get back out.ubrew12: Romney: "there remains a lack of scientific consensus on thehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ubrew12/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184717930.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation.
Loading comments… Robert Hargraves20 Fans 5 hours ago ( 2:08 AM)The way to satisfy both Republicans and Democrats is through new technology for energy cheaper than coal. Republicans fear that carbon taxes will put the US at an economic disadvantage to exempted developing nations. Democrats fear that continuing CO2 emissions will increase global warming with disastrous consequences for water and food. Both are right.The US has the capability to develop advanced nuclear power technologies that can produce energy cheaper than coal. Making such clean, safe power plants available globally is the only way to convince 7 billion people in 250 nations from burning coal -- economic self interest.
The liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR), originally developed by Oak Ridge National Laboratories, is now being refined by China, while the US fails to harvest this technology that could check global warming, end energy poverty, and as well lead to a $70 billion export industry. The new book about this,THORIUM: energy cheaper than coal, is described at http://www.thoriumenergycheaperthancoal.comRobert_Hargraves: The way to satisfy both Republicans and Democrats is throughhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Robert_Hargraves/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184712103.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation.
Loading comments… realtalking271 Fans 6 hours ago ( 1:03 AM)Do NOT expect to hear the truth whenever Mitt Romney speaks! Mitt Romney is a documented liar!realtalking: Do NOT expect to hear the truth whenever Mitt Romneyhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/realtalking/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184700135.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… TrueConservativeWay5 Fans 7 hours ago (12:54 AM)It is good to see that Romney is learning conservatism. There is no uncontroverted evidence of man-made global warming.TrueConservativeWay: It is good to see that Romney is learning conservatism.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/TrueConservativeWay/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184698008.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it HUFFPOST SUPER USERchrisd3Inconceivable!385 Fans 31 minutes ago ( 7:01 AM)Incontroverible facts: Outbound radiation is declining in the exact frequency bands that CO2 and methane absorb. Downward radiation is increasing in the same bands. The stratosphere is cooling while the troposhere warms. Nights are warming faster than days. Winters are warming faster than summers.Every one of these is a signature of greenhouse warming..chrisd3: Incontroverible facts: Outbound radiation is declining in the exact frequencyhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/chrisd3/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184738227.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation.
Loading comments…This comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… ccbcBaylorZiman1 Fans 9 hours ago (10:55 PM)I believe that the issue of the preservation of our environment and natural resources is an extremely important topic that the candidates have failed to fully adress. I understand that presently the economy is the main issue on everybodys minds, however, protecting the environment and innovation in environmentally friendly technology go hand in hand with a good economy. For anybody to still deny humans impact on global warming is ridiculous. By creating regulations on carbon emissions and other factors that contribute to global warming we are not cutting economic opportunities but simply forcing manufacturers to be more innovative. In short, it is important for the candidates to fully adress issues concerning the environment and how we can work towards making the preservation of the environment beneficial to the economy.ccbcBaylorZiman: I believe that the issue of the preservation of ourhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ccbcBaylorZiman/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184659055.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERnet-drCollege Prof and Engineer and programmer16 Fans 13 hours ago ( 6:31 PM)Catastrophic AGW is a hoax to generate taxes.net-dr: Catastrophic AGW is a hoax to generate taxes.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/net-dr/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184581742.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program AnthropologistAmongApesGnothi Seauton1920 Fans 9 hours ago (10:13 PM)Denial is a con-spiracy to preserve a greed-driven worldview by exporting harm to future generations.AnthropologistAmongApes: Denial is a con-spiracy to preserve a greed-driven worldview byhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/AnthropologistAmongApes/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184647600.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program Climate Lurker143 Fans 9 hours ago (10:15 PM)You know what I hope for you, net-dr? I hope you have trouble sleeping at night, because it would mean there's integrity left in you. I know you know the truth, and you know it, and so do most of the people on here, and yet you continue to lie for money, or whatever your reason. I hope you lay awake at night thinking about the consequences you and others of your ilk are reaping on the poorest and least able to protect themselves. You can always walk away and find an honest living.Climate_Lurker: You know what I hope for you, net-dr? I hopehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Climate_Lurker/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184648072.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. There are More Comments on this Thread. Click Here To See them AllLoading comments… Loading comments… Loading comments…This comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. Loading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERSonicUltimate607 Fans 14 hours ago ( 5:44 PM)To quote Romney, in his response to the first question:President Obama’s misguided attempts to play the role of venture capitalist, pick winners and losers, and spend tens of billions of dollars on politically-prioritized investments have been a disaster for the American taxpayer.Uh, Mitt, isn't this the exact thing you do that you purport to be your MAIN qualifier for the Presidency?SonicUltimate: To quote Romney, in his response to the first question:
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Dear Sir/Madame have you considered that Global Warming is the means to a perfect end. With warming our ice caps the resulting melt may cause coastal flooding of land at present sea level. BUT here's the thought that may change everything. In recent weeks scientist drilled several hundred meters below the Arctic Cap to take soil samples. The Samples revealed nutrient rich soil with evidence that this area now covered by ice was once a tropical rain forest. The extinction of the Dinosaur resulting from a mega meteor hitting the earth causing a cloud of dust so dense that it blocked the sun's warmth forming these polar ice caps and burying this rain forest beneath the ice --destroying a lush vegetative land. If uncovered, and the vegetation to take root; the oxygen produced could repairing the ozone layer, less of the sun's radiation would be reflected back into the atmosphere could just be the perfect end result of Global Warming. A thermal image from satellite over The Amazon rain forest or realize the amount of oxygen the Amazon produces. The melting of these caps, a 56 billion year cycle, could be the perfect end to repairing the earth. However in the interim, before this land roots as a rain forest, there will be global adjustment due to the warning. Just a hypothetical thought thanks for indulging me.josephjr1007: I am not a scientist by any means, a financialhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/josephjr1007/obama-romney-spar-over-climate-other-science-issues-in-online-debate_b_1858942_184532191.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it× people have highlighted this! Huzzah! This text has been highlighted.
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